Comments on: Call for proposals http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7 Cani e porci hanno il proprio blog, quindi anch'io! Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:09:07 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: sherleemo http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7#comment-15 Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:09:07 +0000 http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7#comment-15 we all agree, it comes down to this. KICK ITS ASS sister sledge! KICK ITS ASS.

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By: Nikki http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7#comment-14 Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:13:24 +0000 http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7#comment-14 Just sing it, sister.

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By: Nikki http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7#comment-13 Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:43:54 +0000 http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7#comment-13 scruples pooples.

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By: cynthia http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7#comment-12 Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:56:25 +0000 http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7#comment-12 With Cancer, I am not sure this is the time to be a pacifist. In fact, I think if ever there was a time to fight, this is it. I agree with jeanmarie–kick it right in the ass.

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By: toblasio http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7#comment-11 Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:07:00 +0000 http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7#comment-11 m surprised Dr. King and Aristotle didn’t show up in that essay! The original request was that we propose a non-violent way of describing this struggle. This is my response to that request only. I don't agree with this approach, but I will submit to it. I wasn’t asked what I think. I was asked how to describe this in a non-violent way. "realignment. Priorities, soul, self image, external view, even some flesh - all are getting realigned. In business terms: an internal re-org." But since we’re on the subject, what I really think is that you must kick its ass. And don't forget your advantages. This is not a struggle alone. You have an army to help you do it. From teams of specially trained doctors and technicians to teams of specially trained family and loved ones. You have the advantage. Use it. With love, of course, toni]]> Yes, but along with being incredibly smart, sexy, intuitive, well-read and obviously articulate, Alan is pompous. He could have just said, “Cancer is bad, you must fight it. None of this liberal softy mushy crap. Fight, battle, destroy, take no prisoners.” But nooooooo, he had to go all Nietzsche on us and lay out a philosophical script for us to devour and enjoy. Hello! References to Mahatma?! I’m surprised Dr. King and Aristotle didn’t show up in that essay!

The original request was that we propose a non-violent way of describing this struggle. This is my response to that request only. I don’t agree with this approach, but I will submit to it. I wasn’t asked what I think. I was asked how to describe this in a non-violent way.

“realignment. Priorities, soul, self image, external view, even some flesh – all are getting realigned.

In business terms: an internal re-org.”

But since we’re on the subject, what I really think is that you must kick its ass. And don’t forget your advantages. This is not a struggle alone. You have an army to help you do it. From teams of specially trained doctors and technicians to teams of specially trained family and loved ones. You have the advantage. Use it.

With love, of course,

toni

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By: jeanmarie http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7#comment-10 Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:15:51 +0000 http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7#comment-10 Kick the shit out of it, Catia.

It’s what I’m doing to the ants that seem to want to take over my bathroom.

Kick its ass.

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By: Catia Bitching Cancer » Blog Archive » The frustrations of bureaucracy and other thoughts http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7#comment-9 Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:10:48 +0000 http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7#comment-9 […] Alan and (privately) Toni tell me I shouldn’t be afraid or scrupulous about using violence metaphors to describe my adventures with cancer (there you go, I found a word!). Since Toni has so far abstained from posting to the blog, I heartily recommend you read Alan’s comment and enjoy, like I did (I love you Alan!), his elegant and eloquent prose, not to mention his unmatched wit. […]

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By: alankk http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7#comment-8 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:43:04 +0000 http://longbeachit.com/catia/?p=7#comment-8 s own self? It’s beginning to look as if alankk needs his own blog to work this stuff out. Suffice to say that sentient beings can reach a general consensus on certain assumptions, and one of them is that cancer is “bad.” If civilization is to progress, bad things must either be made good, made irrelevant, or made to go away. With cancer, it would appear that only the last option is feasible. So, Catia, I submit that semantics are meaningless when the fundamental goal is unchanging. There will be no negotiations, no coercive diplomacy. I, and likely all others who love you, care only that this contemptible part of you be made to go away, and that the remainder stay with us for ages to come.]]> Okay, this request piqued my interest, as well as my argumentative dander. The first cut involves an adamant assertion that some things simply REQUIRE a battle, a fight. This arguably is true even with people (e.g., Gandhi himself expressed doubt that the strategy which succeeded against the British would have been effective against Hitler’s Germany). And “cancer” cannot be conceived as anything like an organic being (or at least one conclusively separate from the being in which it exists), and so should enjoy none of the rights or considerations granted to feeling creatures as are explicated in the various state and federal laws, and in international treaties. If we can “fight” for human rights and “battle” oppression, why can we not “kick the shit out of” cancer?

And yet …

As best I understand, cancer is not an “invader” — it is, in fact, the very people who “get” it. It is one’s own cells reproducing in a harmful, mutant manner. So fighting cancer entails fighting a (contemptible) part of one’s self. Ordinarily, the more enlightened might seek to approach such an “adversary” with a gentle recognition that it is not separate from us; like Satan, perhaps. Yet ju-jitsu is unlikely to accomplish the desired results in such cases. “I cast thee out” will bring only derogatory chuckles in the modern medical context. So how does one “do battle” with one’s own self?

It’s beginning to look as if alankk needs his own blog to work this stuff out. Suffice to say that sentient beings can reach a general consensus on certain assumptions, and one of them is that cancer is “bad.” If civilization is to progress, bad things must either be made good, made irrelevant, or made to go away. With cancer, it would appear that only the last option is feasible. So, Catia, I submit that semantics are meaningless when the fundamental goal is unchanging. There will be no negotiations, no coercive diplomacy. I, and likely all others who love you, care only that this contemptible part of you be made to go away, and that the remainder stay with us for ages to come.

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